Female sheriff overpowered, loses weapon to perp

Posted by on September 6, 2019 12:50 am
Categories: Column 3

 

A San Bernardino County sheriff’s deputy was injured in a fight for her gun, and her life today.

 

The injuries to the female deputy were not considered life-threatening, and the man who attacked her was expected to recover from his gunshot wounds, according to the Sheriff’s Department.

 

That confrontation began just after 8:30 a.m. in the 13000 block of Cabazon Court with a 911 call from a woman yelling “Oh my God, oh my God, send the police, I need my son removed from my home,” a sheriff’s news release said. The first deputy to arrive, Meagan Forsberg, contacted that man, identified by authorities as 21-year-old Ari Young, outside the home.

 

What the Sheriff’s Department said happened next was captured in a video that showed Forsberg fighting for her life. It opens with the suspect repeatedly punching Forsberg in the head and face, and Forsberg attempting to ward him off. Forsberg falls on her back, her right armed raised with her gun in hand. A shot goes off as an unknown woman screams and a woman in a pink outfit walks by.

 

The suspect then holds down Forsberg’s arm with both hands. Another shot is fired, and the suspect takes the gun away. Forsberg gets up and quickly moves out of camera view to the right. The suspect stands up, extends his right arm and fires in the direction in which Forsberg fled. Young fired several shots at her, the release said.

 

The suspect then walks to his right, and as three sheriff’s SUVs roll up with sirens screaming, he puts his hands up with the deputy’s gun still in his right hand, pointing up. After that, his actions are obscured by the trees between the suspect and the person taping the video. The suspect ignored commands to drop the gun, the release said. About a dozen shots then ring out, according to the video, with the suspect falling after about the eighth round.

 

 


 

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bd
bd

Oh he lived? Darn!

DFW
DFW

The officers involved need more time at the range.

Free Kansan
Free Kansan

Needs testosterone that can’t be had from a syringe.

Fungus Gnat
Fungus Gnat

Maybe a tranny could have handled this? Somehow? With feelings?

Ahmoh
Ahmoh

Maybe they should be carrying 12 ga shotguns instead. Preferably the bullpup type with more than 10 rounds.

Tross
Tross

With 12ga slugs!!

Steve
Steve

Double 00 buck shot is better if you can’t shoot accurately like these guys

Fungus Gnat
Fungus Gnat

Bad choice. You have to aim slugs. 00 buck or even birdshot on full choke would be preferred.

Yupperman
Yupperman

loaded with buckshot

Seymour
Seymour

She would have lost that, too.

disaster pig
disaster pig

I don’t believe she fired the gun she had in time. The type of gun you have doesn’t matter if you don’t use it. Maybe she should have had some non-lethal weapon she wouldn’t have been hesitant to use.

MTK
MTK

My thoughts as well.

Roger
Roger

Center mass please!

Southie High '66
Southie High '66

The California governor just gave an executive order that restricts cops from using lethal force unless they are shot and already bleeding to death. He just signed the order yesterday that you don’t have to help an officer in trouble. San Bernadino is where the Muslim couple massacred several people at a Christmas party.

Ted Bronson
Ted Bronson

ignore it. Do your job, not Gavin’s “feel good” ideas.

Dinky
Dinky

All decent folk should leave California. We did. (I’m a fifth generation native of its settlers, not its opportunistic “immigrants”) Let ebola, typhus, plague, and tuberculosis have the place and withdraw all federal funding. In a little while, we will be able to start over in civilizing and settling the state. Next time, no more Mr. Nice Guy.

SS
SS

It’s starting to appear as if the Democrats /DNC are aligned with Radical Elements bent on destroying America. Why the SILENCE over Last Vegas shooting? Gun Control huh?
Radical elements have taken over the Left. Communists ISIS Globalists, MSM FAKE News and the DNC are attracting America and Infecting in within! Gavin Newsome is another Red Shoe Epstein Boy marching to the order of the “chairman”.

Hoop
Hoop

“starting to appear” ???

The Democrat Party has been trying to overturn the US since the 1960’s and before.
Who is attacking the Constitution at every turn?
Who is pushing Taxation in every possible manner on every possible thing?
Who is weakening our Military?
Who is apologizing to our enemies – while SUPPLYING THEM with arms, AND FUNDING THEM?
Who could that be?????

Fungus Gnat
Fungus Gnat

The 45 goals of communists (from book titled “The Naked Communist” by W. Cleon Skousen

The 45 Communist Goals for America (1958)
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
The Naked Communist” 24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [“]united force[“] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

chocolate lover
chocolate lover

Sounds to me as if the governor is trying to get all good and honest police officers to resign. Remember when Ozero wanted his own military? Maybe that’s what this loony governor is hoping for.

Peabody
Peabody

@Southie High 66

All of his bodyguards should quit. But not just yet. Wait until Newsom is in a dangerous area or situation.

Girlyman514
Girlyman514

You’re absolutely right. Disgusting. The perp will probably end up suing the Police Department or end up being a ward of the state till who knows when. Shoot to kill!

Ch Puller
Ch Puller

If she had shot quicker she would be sued, fired, and a riot would have burnt the city down.

Susan
Susan

The police are now afraid to use force since some have been charged with murder, etc for protecting the public and doing their jobs.

Roxanna
Roxanna

And the first officer needs to be on a desk job. Her inability and/or inexperience could have cost her life as well as many others if there had been other people around for the perp to shoot at.

Ahmoh
Ahmoh

The cops need bigger guns.

Doreen
Doreen

They need bigger cops.

bob
bob

All the super women garbage you’re indoctrinated with on t.v. is a load of hooey. Girls believe that baloney, then think it’s like that in the real world, and then they find out it’s not like what they’ve seen on the boob tube.

DFW
DFW

About 40 years ago, the first woman state cop in CT sets off on her first shift alone. She encounters a traffic stop where the guy disarms her and handcuffs her to the cruiser door handle. He then proceeds to fondle her breasts inside her vest and bra. She resigned that day.
Not my story, it came from a state police recruit in the next class and he had credibility with me.

MTK
MTK

I come from a law enforcement family, and I still believe that women cops should never patrol alone.

Irishsmithy
Irishsmithy

Women cops shouldn’t patrol period. It’s a joke! I worked in heavy industry for 45 years when I started there no women worked there. Then along came the women because of government mandates and all of a sudden a two man job became a two man one women job. I have nothing against women. In fact I have 5 daughters so don’t call me a women heater. The women just simply did not have the strength to do some jobs. A male officer that has to patrol with a female officer is at risk.

Seabee
Seabee

Irish, I consider myself a woman “heater” to. 😄

Irishsmithy
Irishsmithy

Lol! Damn auto correct

chock
chock

I don’t think they should be cops. Men deserve to have backup that can assist them just like in combat. Politically correct is killing this country and our cops.

Irishsmithy
Irishsmithy

There are plenty of things women can do as well or better than a man. Being a cop or soldier isn’t on that list.

Peabody
Peabody

@Irishsmithy

In a baby having contest, they’ve got us all beat to hell.

spartacus
spartacus

name them ……. ( ammo up homies … )

Seymour
Seymour

They shouldn’t be cops at all.

Politically Correct Kills1
Politically Correct Kills1

The problem with people of little stature (male or female) being cops/security professionals is that, with being small or weak, conflicts escalate to the level of deadly force almost immediately because they have near zero other control or intimidation potential.
And we’re talking muscular big, not an obese, fat walking bus in a pair of pants and web gear. Hear that TSA?

Seabee
Seabee

PC Kills- I often make this exact argument because it has been backed up by studies/statistics and in my own personal experience of being in the military between the Seabees and the National Guard deployed to Iraq for almost two years. That and just plain common sense.

Sam Clemens
Sam Clemens

About 20 or 25 years ago, a female Indiana state cop pulled over a semi, and proceeded to do a walk around, writing him up for violations. The driver grabbed her, overpowered her, bent her over a guardrail and handcuffed her to it. Pulled her pants down and drove away.

Debbie D
Debbie D

Bet that was embarrassing.

Dinky
Dinky

The world is not a safe space. We have done our women a disservice in pretending otherwise, as two Scandanavian women tourists recently discovered when they were raped and beheaded in Morocco. “Empowered Wymyn” is a fiction that can only be sustained within the protection of what remains of Western Civilization.

I Love Bacon
I Love Bacon

I am a woman. We have ‘our’ physical strengths, there is no doubt about that. Case in pointJuliane Koepcke. But I being logical ALSO know our muscular physical weaknesses. I watched a video of a female state trooper being punched to the ground, beat repeatedly and relentlessly by a HUGE black male ..fresh out of prison..while repeating ‘I can’t go back to prison’.
IN FRONT of his 12 yr old daughter who was SCREAMING, REPEATEDLY, ‘daddy please stop’.
All caught on dash cam. He drove away with his daughter while the officer laid there struggling for air. She made it by the hair on her chinny chin chin. But her face was to forever show every blow on her near fatal encounter. So here we are…..again, kinda.

joey
joey

When mom called and said I need my son removed from my home….They should have two or more. That is common sense.

KAG
KAG

The simple fact of the matter is that no cop should be sent out to patrol alone. PERIOD. In the military, a single soldier is never sent out alone to do anything, not even take a shit. A single person cannot perform 100% security, they cannot cover their own back. The smallest element is the “buddy team” of you and your Ranger buddy. The saying is “two is one and one is none”.

Back in the day, when smart people ran our cities, cops just about always patroled in pairs in their patrol cars. Watch police shows from the 1950’s and 1960’s and you will see this. What happened? PC Dim politicians wanted to save money. What’s the easiest way to do this? One officer to a car. That way, the number of patrols remains the same, or can be increased, but the number of officers can be reduced. This saves the city money, but is extremely dangerous to any police officer. This is stupid and must be stopped. It causes the criminals to escalate violence and is killing our police officers.

I Don't Think So!!
I Don't Think So!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Hathcock
Hathcock only once removed the white feather from his bush hat while deployed in Vietnam.[17] During a volunteer mission days before the end of his first deployment, he crawled over 1,500 yards of field to shoot a PAVN General.[who?][18][19] He was not informed of the details of the mission until he accepted it.[20][failed verification] This effort took four days and three nights, without sleep, of constant inch-by-inch crawling.[19] Hathcock said he was almost stepped on as he lay camouflaged with grass and vegetation in a meadow shortly after sunset.[2] At one point he was nearly bitten by a bamboo viper, but had the presence of mind to avoid moving and giving up his position.[19] As the General exited his encampment, Hathcock fired a single shot that struck the General in the chest, killing him.

KAG
KAG

What’s your point?

You may be surprised to find out that snipers operate in teams of two: a spotter and a shooter. They alternate between the two roles. Lone snipers cannot provide their own local security, as well as, perform a myriad of other military tasks that have to be done in order to be successful and live.

I Don't Think So!!
I Don't Think So!!

“In the military, a single soldier is never sent out alone to do anything, not even take a shit.”

The point is, Carlos Hathcock was ALONE on this mission and was completely successful.

KAG
KAG

How do you know he was alone? Where you there? Or do you believe everything you read on wiki or in a war stories book.

What’s the difference between a War Story and a Fairy Tale?

KAG
KAG

One starts off with “Once upon a time……”, the other starts off with “This is no shit……”

KAG
KAG

Hathcock’s spotter was this Marine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Roland_Burke

ratrider
ratrider

He lost several of his spotters since after making his shot he was frequently attacked and hunted by hundreds of enemy troops… since he usually worked behind enemy lines…

I Don't Think So!!
I Don't Think So!!

His own words…

Gunnery Sgt. Carlos Hathcock is a legend of Marine Corps history. One of the most lethal snipers in history, he even repeatedly succeeded in killing snipers sent to hunt him. In one of his last missions on a tour in Vietnam, he crawled nearly two miles to kill a Vietnamese general and escape.

When the mission came down, he didn’t have all the details but he knew tough missions at the end of a tour were a recipe for disaster. Rather than send one of his men, he volunteered for the mission himself.

“Normally, when you take on a mission like that, when you’re that short, you forget everything,” Hathcock said in an interview. “Ya know, tactics, the whole ball of wax, and you end up dead. And, I did not want none of my people dead, and so I took the mission on myself.”

Hathcock was flown towards the objective, but was dropped well short of the target so he wouldn’t be given away. He made his way to a tree line, but still had 1,500 yards to move from the tree line to his final firing position. So, he started crawling.

“I went to my side. I didn’t go flat on my belly, because I made a bigger slug trail when I was on my belly. I moved on my side, pretty minutely, very minutely. I knew I had a long ways to go, didn’t want to tire myself out too much.”

As he crawled, he was nearly discovered multiple times by enemy soldiers.

“Patrols were within arm’s reach of me. I could’ve tripped the majority, some of them. They didn’t even know I was there.”

The complacency of the patrol allowed Hathcock to get 700 yards from his target.

“They didn’t expect a one-man attack. They didn’t expect that. And I knew, from the first time when they came lolly-gagging past me, that I had it made.”

The talented sniper made his way up to his firing position, avoiding patrols the whole way and slipping between machine gun nests without being detected.

He arrived at his firing position and set up for his shot.

“Seen all the guys running around that morning, and I dumped the bad guy.”

Hathcock took his shot and punched right through the chest of the general he was targeting. At that moment, he proved the brilliance of firing from grass instead of from the trees.

P.S. No I wasn’t there because he was alone.

KAG
KAG

One exception does not a rule make. One can find exceptions to anything, it doesn’t invalidate the rule.

Debbie D
Debbie D

I read a book about him. He was great. But one of his goals was to stay hidden not be a close target.

Seymour
Seymour

I’ll bet he wouldn’t have gone into a home to handle a domestic violence situation by himself.

KAG
KAG

Seymour,

A bolt action rifle with a 10x scope is probably not the best weapon for that mission. LOL.

ratrider
ratrider

Verified Fact,.. Carlos Hathcock was one of the most feared snipers in Viet Nam,..VC had a $5000 reward on his head, at a time where that was huge money! He was a country boy, used to hunting in rough terrain to feed his family from an early age,.. used those skills to hunt VC. Several books written about him…He saved many American Soldiers lives…. An American Hero!

Peabody
Peabody

Domestic disturbance is the #1 most dangerous situation a cop has to face, by far.

Debbie D
Debbie D

I think I read somewhere that domestic calls are some of the most dangerous times for cops.

BlueGreen
BlueGreen

But muh equalitay

flaart bllooger
flaart bllooger

teens

KAG
KAG

dumb thugs.

Gato
Gato

Why women shouldn’t be police officers. They just don’t have the physical strength a man has.

MCURB
MCURB

but. but isn’t that Atomic Blond movie for real??

Sandy
Sandy

Why was a female officer riding alone in her vehicle?
Who doesn’t know she is at high risk of being overpowered by a male?
Whether that male be a criminal, or a mental case.
She should have known without anyone telling her.
Smh.
Hope she is ok, and chooses another line of work.

Jack
Jack

Because according to the left, womyn are nearly if not as strong physically as men. Just watch modern movies,TV shows, and the MSM for proof- they wouldn’t lie. Small framed women depicted as kicking the the hell out of brawny, ripped men. Sounds realistic to me. Womyn have just have been supressed for so long they have never been given the chance to prove their strength equal to men. That female officer didn’t need no backup or partner, she’s tougher that the worst of the worst criminal you can find. Give her a partner and insult her ability to do her job? No. Never. The perpetrator just tricked her, he certainly did not overpower her. You must be a Trump loving troglodyte to suggest women are not as strong as men. Sarcasm/off

Action
Action

I saw it in the comic books, then movies, women should be as strong as men or STRONGER. in fact they are stronger, but for other, better things, not law enforcement.

chuckles
chuckles

But the new Batman is a lesbian!

KAG
KAG

Well, if I decided to identify as a woman, I’d be a lesbian too.

Steve
Steve

Reality is against you, my friend. BTW. 99% of workers in the sewage treatment industry are men. When are the feminazis going to address this awful example of male patriarchy and get more women working there? Fair’s fair!

Servant of Empire
Servant of Empire

I talked to a guy once who had worked for an airline. When a plane comes in, someone has to attach a hose and empty the lavatory. Occasionally there is a malfunction, and the person gets covered in blue filth. It is an automatic rest of the day off. He said that women would absolutely refuse to do that job, and so they were exempt from it.

ratrider
ratrider

Begin back ground music for ‘”Wonderwoman”….

Renate
Renate

She was riding alone prob because there are not enough cops in the department and that is policy in some police districts. You ride alone, She prob called for backup and then went alone since she was the closest to the house. I agre, women should not be cops or firemen or in the military, other than support. But this is what Americans have been screaming for and wrought. “Equality”.

Reddog
Reddog

She is extremely lucky to be alive. She should see it as a message from the big guy telling her to find another profession.

Lodi
Lodi

She is probably a three striper. The peter principal at work.

Servant of Empire
Servant of Empire

I’m skeptical that she was a Sgt. A patrol deputy will be dispatched to a call for service before they dispatch a Sgt.

Servant of Empire
Servant of Empire

You don’t see women remaining in patrol for lengthy periods of time. They transfer to detectives as fast as they can, and their departments are only too happy to accommodate them. The political correctness/affirmative action scam is dangerous and should be stopped!

SaraHomemaker
SaraHomemaker

Sorry but have you ever seen Samoan, Tongan, or Hawaiian Women Fight. My husband has. Hoo-ey! Two Tongan Chicks got in a fight after my husbands shift one day. A dude about 6 foot and ripped with muscles, gets thrown like a rag doll for trying to break it up. In the air, not kidding. If the Female officer was Samoan or Tongan. I can tell you that this sucker would not have had an arm in his socket if he tried to take the gun. We are taking Wookie style,

I am no raccis’ but Men aren’t built the same, like wise with women. All shapes-heights, and abilities. Some are better at using their abilities than others, self included.

Lord Lebara
Lord Lebara

This dude ain’t lying. Even if they’re pretty Samoan and Tongan girls are massive and strong- in College there were quite a few pretty ones but I was scared to even complement or approach them. And I’m 6 foot 4 by 230 lbs by the way.

Yeah I don’t think this would have happened to a good sized Tongan or Samoan girl either.

SaraHomemaker
SaraHomemaker

THese Women that My husband Described were about 250 to 300 pounders

Solomonpal
Solomonpal

Pretty Samoan girl? I don’t think so.

SaraHomemaker
SaraHomemaker

I see I got haters. My husband just got home. One addition, The dude was an Ex Marine Cop,

Snoopy Navarro
Snoopy Navarro

Sara…..you found the .005% of women that could do the job. But when my life is on the line I’ll take the former Marine all day. Not a 130 lb woman. Even if she is a former Marine.

Same goes for firefighters. If I’m barely breathing upstairs in my house and I see a 130 lb woman come up the stairs I’m going to know I’m probably dead. I’m 225 lbs and 6’2″. Its just physically impossible.

SaraHomemaker
SaraHomemaker

250-300 pounders. Pacific Islander women I have seen come in two sizes: Small and Slim, or Tall and Massive!

Gravelyvoice Jim
Gravelyvoice Jim

You are correct Sara, those women are tougher than most men. So let’s start demanding that Hollywood typecast the 300 pounders as Wonder Woman instead of the sleeker 115-130 lb. versions and boycott any movie that doesn’t.

I think that’s the point here.

Seabee
Seabee

But can the 250 pounders run down an ice cream truck let alone a perp? That’s the point, overall ability to do the many aspects of the job. That’s why they have to lower phyisical conditioning standards for women to the point where grandma can pass.

ratrider
ratrider

Same in the military,.. physical standards had to be lowered in order for females to qualify for duty…to satisfy mandatory “equality” in numbers.
Have encountered several slightly built cops, male as well as female that immediately escalate to drawn weapons when challenged in any way. Very dangerous and unstable…
Nothing like looking at a Barney Fife, 5’5, 125 lbs,…standing on a berm of loose ground, shaking like a leaf with a 357 in his hand, cocked, pointed at your head… screaming out orders that don’t even make sense, all over nothing… Some people are not cut out to be cops!

Gary
Gary

Big, Healthy, Husky, Fluffy and..
…DAMN!

Steve
Steve

Problem is, those women are exceptions. We’re talking about general rules. Could you have a police force in a tough area without women? Yes. Could you have the same without men, No! It just annoys me and many other men when a women does a man’s job and the media is all over her (saw a story yesterday about a female truck driver), but which men have been doing for decades without any fuss. We need to stop pretending that men and women are the same. They ain’t.

Irishsmithy
Irishsmithy

Yeah but that’s not who you see wanting to be police officers.

SSI01
SSI01

SaraH, having spent some time in HI I can agree w/your statement. The problem with the Samoan/Tongan/Hawaiian women is there AREN’T ANY in mainland PDs or sheriff’s depts. 99.9% of what departments have out there are women who are essentially like the ones described elsewhere in this string. BTW the depts that have them have to keep them acct of DOJ and EEOC guidelines that say they MUST be given a chance. Once they’re overpowered on patrol or demonstrate ineffectiveness out in the wind, they are given admin jobs with the dept or, as has been previously stated, they become detectives. The problem there is those detective slots by rights go to high-time or very, very smart patrol officers who have demonstrated their street-smarts and LE acumen over an extended period of time. Once again, this is working against the female officer because I’m talking about a period of at least four or five years on the street, in uniform, in most cases (on average), during which time the female would have to be “carried” by other male patrol officers or would deliberately be put on beats where little that is physical ever happens. Hence her experience level would not be the same as the male officers.

Oh, BTW – I was in the AF when females, who were previously mostly allocated to medical or administrative tasks, were allowed to become aircraft mechanics. Working on F-4C Phantoms, you had a basic toolbox you used for most of your chores on the ramp, with some jobs requiring special tools coming from the tool crib. If you were in the Phase docks, you had to manhandle (oops, I guess it’s “personhandle” now) aircraft jacks into position under the fuselage and wings and jack the bird up. Sometimes the job also entailed single-handedly personhandling a ground power unit so various tests could be conducted on the aircraft. If you were a wrench-bender on that bird you frequently had to heft that 75-80lb toolbox, by yourself, up on maintenance stands or other places when there was no one available just at that time to help. Sometimes this had to be done in bitter cold or 130-degree heat on the ramp. The GPUs were never pleasant to handle no matter the temperature. Almost always I saw the females asking the guys for help.

Khrymson
Khrymson

Damn, those background checks and gun control measures of CA sure prevented that criminal from obtaining a gun!

Snoopy Navarro
Snoopy Navarro

Touche, Khrymson.

Sam Clemens
Sam Clemens

I wonder how long before the CalGov takes guns away from police, and hand out whistles and billy sticks.

jr
jr

all the woman cop haters here

would have been raped in that situation…. fact.

chock
chock

Nope just stating the facts.

Steve
Steve

You can choose your own opinions, jr, but not your own facts.

Sgt Friday
Sgt Friday

It’s basic policing that lone officers don’t go without a partner into a domestic dispute. These situations are where the most LEO get injured or killed. From the video the officer didn’t know how to defend herself and would probably be dead if backup hadn’t arrived..

Action
Action

Women should not be on the police force. In a split decision a man is more likely to attack a “woman of the law”. Basic human nature. More dangerous and causing more harm than your good diversity feelings. Stupid.

Action
Action

I’m not allowed to comment thumbs up. You are entirely accurate.

Something Made Up
Something Made Up

They also shouldn’t be allowed to vote…or own dogs.

How many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?
None. They can’t change anything.

NavyVet
NavyVet

Their minds…

Something Made Up
Something Made Up

lol. Touche’ sir, well played.

Renate
Renate

Ah but you are wrong. They Have changed everything in society. Women also cause trouble in the police force with their manipulative ways. I’m not a woman cop hater, just a realist.

Something Made Up
Something Made Up

Oh, I’m sorry toots. It was what we call a “joke.” Have I mentioned women also don’t have a sense of humor?

BTW, feminists haven’t changed anything. Their pussy-whipped husbands have, though. And clearly not for the better. Now go make me some pie!

Foxman
Foxman

They should have shot him f****** dead

NavyVet
NavyVet

Twice!

KAG
KAG

The cops were being racist by only shooting him 8 times. The white guy last week was shot about 25 times for holding a gun in the air.

Foxman
Foxman

They should have shot him effing dead

Sf
Sf

Women cops need to know their place in a physical confrontation. I love them but they cant go toe to toe with a Male like this. I’ve witnessed this several times on calls. Hope she is okay.

justthefacts
justthefacts

1 spoiled rotten, liberal cali brat down, a few million more to go !!

Charles
Charles

” anything a man can do ,we can do better.” Women have been worked . There shouldn’t be a damn one of them fighting on the battlefields ,fighting fires, fighting bad guys, fighting for mentally ill men to compete against them. Yes, there’s always the exception but few and far between. Get real people, get real.

SaraHomemaker
SaraHomemaker

Yeah I hear yah, I tried to point that out and got seriously down voted. As a White-ish Part Native American/ Part Asian pointing out Pacific and South Pacifica Islander women are the exception with proof. Regardless of Man or Woman…. Police on the Job with possible hostile people, You should never answer it alone,

Snoopy Navarro
Snoopy Navarro

I think your comment above was articulated wrong. I honestly thought you were for women doing these jobs, sara.

SaraHomemaker
SaraHomemaker

No an NO. I am saying that there are cases where Physically a Woman can Kick a Mans ass. RARE. even if she COULD, It Does NOT mean she should. I don’t care what SEX you are, A hostile situation requires more than one person. But she the lady was a fool and lucky one at that. My hubby has witnessed the RARE case where a woman can annihilate a man with one arm. the cop in question tried to break up a fight ALONE. He got scraped up by the paramedics. Unless you are built like the Samoan Woman who handed an EX MARINE HIS ASS. I speak as legally as possible Snoopy. Under the Law women can be cops. Do I think is a good Idea for most Women, NO. RARE cases of Woman lets talk- but mostly NO. The Female Cop is Poster Child for NO.

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Gravelyvoice Jim
Gravelyvoice Jim

Here is a recent example of the problem we are facing:

https://people.com/sports/carli-lloyd-not-naive-about-nfl-kicker-potential/

This kind of tripe is what almost got that poor deputy killed. I certainly can’t kick a football 55 yards, but notice her taking 5 steps instead of the 1 1/2 steps NFL kickers take. What this actually was, was a 55 yard KICKOFF that would put the ball firmly on the 10 yard line of an NFL field. The worst NFL kickers will typically put kickoffs on the goal line and the best often drill them 75 yards + through the back of the end zone.

So let’s give the girl a break and call a short kickoff a long field goal as proof that a woman can compete athletically with a man. Change the language, change the standards and anything is possible.

I would love to see the Eagles sign her, they would go 0-16 with no real kicker.

Steve
Steve

Exceptions to the rule. Meaningless

gordon r parker
gordon r parker

women should’nt be cops – or firefighters .

SaraHomemaker
SaraHomemaker

So there are some people who didnt like what I said.. So I am going to say it AGAIN, With an addendum. My husband JUST got home from work. He Clarified some details for me that Fits well with this story.

He saw two Samoan Women, his buddy was Tongan and knew the women but not that well. My bad. So they are unwinding at the lot, when Two Samoan Chicks were fighting, it got Nasty. A Cop. 6 footer Ex Marine and Cop. Tried to break up the fight. Got thrown like a rag doll into the air. They continued to kick the Schlizz out of each other, hair pulling punching the works. He did not get up for an HOUR and the Paramedics had to scrape him up. he got served, Wookie style! The Fighting Samoan women were fine enough to screech at each the while the cops struggled to shove them in the Crown Vic’s. This guy went it alone too!

So the Moral of both stories is: Regardless of gender. The cop was stupid to go it alone, Always partner up in a hostile situation. that goes for regular folks too!

SaraHomemaker
SaraHomemaker

Not all women are built like Asian and European women who hare slender with small bones, There are exceptions to the rule. rare still,

and yeah you want me to say women shouldn’t be cops I agree to most extents, except rape. A male cop is the last thing a woman should see when she just had another male assault her. How in a woman free police force can you solve that, the lady cop was a moron for trying to take down a guy alone, I am with you. But haters gonna hate, I am advocating common sense not bigotry, If you don’t have the strength, Stamina. and agility for the job DONT TAKE IT.

Steve
Steve

Your obsession with Tongan and Samoan women is slightly worrying, Sara!

SaraHomemaker
SaraHomemaker

This Lady Should Not be q Cop! She screwed up, and schat on procedure.

If My husband saw two White Chicks with the same Build and Strength I would say accordingly or to Black women. They had height weight and leverage to boomerange a Ex Marine Cop. Many are saying thatall women are physically weak. Which Is Not True. All Men are not extremely Strong HELLO SOY BOYS.

No they are an outlier a the tall and massive ones. I find peoples obessession with Women or Men worrying. i am simply proving a point that you cant assumptions on every single woman on the Planet or Men for that matter on capability or acumen. Case In point: the Wuss of a Guy who couldnt load his luggage up above his seat. Men are loosing their umpf. Should I assume that all men all over the world are like that NO. Is the lady Cop out of her element YES.

Old fox
Old fox

Woman just should not be in uniform. Girl is lucky she is alive..

s
s

that is insane, i watched the video and he clearly din du nuttin. muh poor baby was just trying to help.
/sarc

Spurious Furious
Spurious Furious

She shouldn’t have been there alone, or sat in the car until backup arrived. Shes lucky to be alive.
The fro on that perp is a nonverbal indicator that there would be no respect for LEO on that scene.

Fredo Cuomo- Mueller Lied and People Died.
Fredo Cuomo- Mueller Lied and People Died.

And she passed all the Tests and was eligible to be a police officer, 1 big man overpowered her, took her gun and shot at her as she ran away. Reminds me of the True story how the LA Country Fire Dept. had to lower the weight of what was needed to qualify to be a firefighter, so if your house is burning and you see a young lady coming up the ladder to get ya’ and you weigh over 150, well kiss you ass good-bye because Mr. Diversify does not think you deserve to live.

Steve
Steve

My son recently did navy recruit school. They fed them all the BS about no excuses being made for the gals. The problem was the ladies couldn’t keep up with any of the physical training and got “pussy passes” for serious offences which got the guys grounded. But guess who got all the prizes on passing out day? Luckily, my son and his friends managed to get themselves on to an all male ship.

Fredo Cuomo- Mueller Lied and People Died.
Fredo Cuomo- Mueller Lied and People Died.

Congratulation with your Son, Tell him thank you for my freedom. My daughter was Navy, during 2001-04, flight deck of aircraft carrier. Blue shirt.

Servant of Empire
Servant of Empire

Had to chuckle a little. You see this repeated in many situations where little Muffy can’t quite keep up with a normal man. But come ceremony time, there’s little Muffy getting all the attention and awards.

JBrickley
JBrickley

The female officer made more than one mistake in the moments prior to being chased down, knocked to the ground, overpowered and disarmed. She’s lucky she didn’t die. I have zero problems with women officers, but they have to be tougher and they need a lot more hand to hand combat training. They are more apt to back off when the correct response is to engage and do it sooner rather than later. At the same time, their rules of engagement put these female officers in greater danger because they are not allowed to do what they need to do to stay safe. She should have taken this guy down right away without a firearm but she was unwilling to do what was necessary because she probably would have been written up for it. The PC world has made it unsafe for all officers but females especially. Pretty ironic since the same crowd behind the PC is also behind the woman can do anything a man can do. Good way to get women killed.

Genius
Genius

Women cops. LOL.

John Phillips
John Phillips

We need universal background checks and a limit on how many shell s a magazine can hold. That would have stopped this. How on Earth can they call it “common sense” gun reform?

Dmoney$
Dmoney$

Send a woman to do a mans job….

KAG
KAG

….and nobody gets pregnant.

Dan S
Dan S

Sadly the POS lived. The end.

Yeafaq2
Yeafaq2

WOMEN.. SHOULD…NOT…BE..COPS…OR… FIREMEN !!!. This isn’t like golf where letting them tee off 20 feet closer has no consequences. They are NOT equal in strength.

Colombian
Colombian

Nothing new here folks after all, this is California.

VROOOOOM
VROOOOOM

Failure of this culture of anarchy they are without morals

Ladini
Ladini

No amt of training or fitness is going to help a woman against hardened criminals, weightroom felons and chemically altered psychos

Reddog
Reddog

He should be dead and she should be fired. Sorry, but most women are incapable of controlling the situation using brute force and must resort to firing their handguns instead. The PC world says this woman’s shortcomings are acceptable and “fair” today, then they rail because she had to use her handgun to control the situation. Can’t have it both ways. Now those of you who are hating on me already should just ask yourself this; how many150 pound women, by themselves, can subdue a 250+ man who has no intention of giving up? Life is tough enough without society making it tougher.

Seabee
Seabee

Red…”must resort to using their handguns instead” …PROVEN FACT!

Servant of Empire
Servant of Empire

Officers can fire their weapon when they believe they are in danger of death or great bodily injury. Female officers reach that threshold faster than males. And it’s BECAUSE they are female!

BuzzardSays
BuzzardSays

Not enough strength

ToucheDoritosDos
ToucheDoritosDos

Sorry kids, but the sexual revolution of the 60-70s lied to us all: women cannot do anything a man can do, certainly not as well and in fact, to her severe detriment. Toxic femininity is risking women’s lives needlessly, because it appeals to women’s egos and to men’s easier access to women. Pitting a woman to a mano a mano with a criminal perp who cares nothing about her life, LEO uni or not? We’ve lost our effing minds.

Edge of Wetness
Edge of Wetness

This should have been impossible. I have been hectored endlessly by the left about how there’s no difference between men and women.

Will
Will

Men and women are eeeeeeequal

KAG
KAG

….under the law and that is about it.

Joe
Joe

Don’t understand how or why the deputy let him get that close to her. Always keep separation.

sworn merican
sworn merican

Those GI Janes is a f*** joke!
They should be never ever allowed to be on the streets.
Admin, support? Yes. Field? No!

Irishsmithy
Irishsmithy

The only problem with giving women all of the administrative position means the guys are doomed to crawling in the mud because the girls get all the cushy jobs.

Steve
Steve

Women are great at many things but three things they should never be are: front-line soldiers, police officers of firefighters. PC costs lives

KAG
KAG

And not just their own lives either.

jd
jd

No single Officer, Male or Female, should respond to a suspected Domestic Violence Incident!!!!! Ever!!!! The Department’s Procedures are flawed and are putting their Officers in danger…….

Karen Speight
Karen Speight

There is something to having a man’s upper body strength.
PC kills.

Neil
Neil

Why didn’t she employ all those moves we see in the movies where the 115 pound woman beats up four 200 pound men…oh yeah I forgot that’s called fantasy.

Naturally this was “unjustified” police shooting of a good kid who was just minding his own business when “racist” cops tried to gun him down or at least I’m sure that’s what the “community” and the lefty media would have told us if there wasn’t video showing the truth ,hell, maybe they’ll say it anyway and who’s going to refute their BS …More “racists”?

Wheelie
Wheelie

That wouldn’t happen to a trans cop that’s why women need to be at home taking care of the kids

Fungus Gnat
Fungus Gnat

Women can do anything a man can do – and do it better. Right?

Yupperman
Yupperman

Any address that ends in Court, avoid. If a public officer don’t respond alone.
A shame that he, hmm, could be a she? survived.

Nick099
Nick099

He beat the hell out of her and took her gun.

This is why cops are not supposed to be tender poets nor lightweight midgets.
The jerk could not even punch correctly, but his assault was enough to overwhelm the officer, that she had to go for the gun.

donnieboy
donnieboy

never send a women to do a man.s job etc etc etc…..

Crusader Rabbit
Crusader Rabbit

Why didn’t she Zimmermanize the thug?!?

bobknoblett
bobknoblett

That’s why women shouldn’t be cops or soldiers.

Cool Senior
Cool Senior

This is another reason why women should not be placed in these positions. Physical standards have been reduced for law Enforcement because of the PC crowd. Police Officers are entitled to competent partners as backup in threatening situations.